people are outraged by it. i'm not surprised that you found that today at the summit. >> you nailed it. i think a lot of people think look, if there are no jobs out there, if incomes are falling and the poverty rate is rising like we saw by the report that came out on friday it is hard to keep families intact. we know that the most important thing for our economy is to keep families intact, to have, you know, workers with good jobs with high pay and the other issue, though, i have to stress this it, was the kind of sense that these folks have that the debt has become immoral, that a great nation does not pass its debts on to its children and grandchildren and grandchildren's children and it is interesting to me, kimberly, that a lot of these folks view this debt issue not as an economic issue but a moral issue. >> i hear that. they are upset about national debt, overspending, welfare, the death tax, they believe that is antifamily. i wish we had more time.